{"id":14562,"date":"2012-10-01T10:59:59","date_gmt":"2012-10-01T14:59:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/theredphoenixapl.org\/?p=14562"},"modified":"2012-10-01T10:59:59","modified_gmt":"2012-10-01T14:59:59","slug":"aclu-takes-cia-to-court-over-secret-drone-war-everybody-knows-about","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/2012\/10\/aclu-takes-cia-to-court-over-secret-drone-war-everybody-knows-about\/","title":{"rendered":"ACLU Takes CIA to Court Over Secret Drone War Everybody Knows About"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/redphoenixnews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/predator-firing-missile4.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-14563\" title=\"predator-firing-missile4\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/redphoenixnews.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/10\/predator-firing-missile4.jpg?resize=490%2C367\" alt=\"\" width=\"490\" height=\"367\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000;\"><strong>by John Glaser<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000;\">The Obama administration has a good thing going. They get to run a futuristic drone war that<\/span> <span style=\"color:#0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/antiwar.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/10\/the-laws-obama-is-breaking-in-his-relentless-drone-war\/\"><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\">operates above the law<\/span><\/a><\/span> <span style=\"color:#000000;\">and allows them to bomb people outside any official theater of conflict, even if they are American citizens with Constitutional rights to due process. When the drone war produces a juicy nugget that is perfect for some jingoistic war propaganda, they get to sing it from the mountaintops. When the press asks them uncomfortable questions about it, however, or when concerned parties file suit against the administration,<\/span> <span style=\"color:#0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.propublica.org\/article\/how-the-govt-talks-about-a-drone-program-it-wont-acknowledge\"><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\">they get to say the drone program is classified<\/span><\/a><\/span> y <span style=\"color:#0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/antiwar.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/06\/kingly-presidential-powers-to-murder-anyone-are-none-of-your-business\/\"><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\">avoid any public or legal scrutiny.<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000;\">Tomorrow, the American Civil Liberties Union<\/span> <span style=\"color:#0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.aclu.org\/keep-america-safe-free\/aclu-appeals-court-thursday-arguing-against-cias-secrecy-claim-targeted\"><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\">will be in court<\/span><\/a><\/span> <span style=\"color:#000000;\">with the government, specifically the CIA, over this little scam they\u2019re running. The ACLU has tried to file Freedom of Information Act requests to get information on the drone program and its legal basis, but the government has said \u2018no, it\u2019s secret.\u2019 The ACLU is now returning fire in court, arguing that if administration officials get to selectively talk about the drone war in speeches and to reporters, it can\u2019t then turn around and say the program is too secret to comply with FOIA requests.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color:#000000;\">\u201cThe notion that the CIA\u2019s targeted killing program is a secret is nothing short of absurd,\u201d said ACLU Deputy Legal Director Jameel Jaffer, who will argue the case before a three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit Appeals Court. \u201cFor more than two years, senior officials have been making claims about the program both on the record and off. They\u2019ve claimed that the program is effective, lawful and closely supervised. If they can make these claims, there is no reason why they should not be required to respond to requests under the Freedom of Information Act.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/world\/2012\/sep\/19\/aclu-us-drone-programme-court\"><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\">The Guardian:<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color:#000000;\">The ACLU\u2019s demand for details of the programme \u2013 including documents related to its legal justification drawn up by the department of justice \u2013 is aimed at prompting a national debate on the scope of the drone programme and how it is used. Its legality is a particular issue. <strong>The memorandum justifying the legal basis for the targeted killing has now been requested by at least 10 members of Congress and three different lawsuits<\/strong> but it remains so secret that that acknowledging its existence is a classified matter. \u201cThe public has a right to decide for itself whether or not the programme is lawful or moral,\u201d Jaffer said.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"color:#000000;\">I\u2019d be hard pressed to find a more clear-cut case of violating the checks and balances intended in the Constitution. Congress has been sidestepped and ignored. The court\u2019s have been circumvented through absurd and contradictory state secrets privileges. Unfortunately, brave and independent federal judges like<\/span> <span style=\"color:#0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/news.antiwar.com\/2012\/09\/18\/judge-grants-obama-doj-request-to-suspend-case-against-ndaa\/\"><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\">Judge Katherine B. Forrest,<\/span><\/a><\/span> <span style=\"color:#000000;\">who tried to block enforcement of the government\u2019s new detention powers in the NDAA, are few and far between. Still, the ACLU has a pretty strong case, so we\u2019ll have to see if the judges in the DC Circuit Appeals Court tomorrow get pressured into granting the Executive Branch the power to skirt all accountability and wage a secret, lawless war.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/antiwar.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/19\/aclu-takes-the-cia-to-court-over-the-secret-drone-war-everybody-knows-about-a\/\"><span style=\"color:#0000ff;\">Fuente<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>by John Glaser The Obama administration has a good thing going. They get to run a futuristic drone war that operates above the law and..<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":38361,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[166,21,189,97,119],"tags":[197],"class_list":["post-14562","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-government","category-international","category-us-military","category-us-news","category-war","tag-imperialism"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/redphoenix.news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/predator-firing-missile4_14562_8354f.jpg?fit=1080%2C810&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14562","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14562"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14562\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/38361"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14562"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14562"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/redphoenix.news\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14562"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}